Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. Hair we go. I am reliably informed they took SIX hours, not TWO as stated in my comment. Have you read the book? Three days later, Joann had plans to pick up her mother-in-law, Veronica Katrinak, to go Christmas shopping. Kidnapped and killed? Plus, he had only a minimal life insurance policy on Joann and he passed polygraphs, according to The FBI Files: Family Secrets. This FBI report, of the hairs being unable to yield a DNA result because of the absent root material, was never revealed to Rorrers defence. As for the words exchanged on the call between the two big-haired women, Joann told Andrew that Patricia had used profanity; Patricia said it was the other way around. For one thing, her mother never asked Sandra Ireland to hide the gun, and she retrieved it on the way home the next day she worked as a bus driver and couldnt take it with her to school. Unfortunately for Joanne this psycho took it badly. He had worked as a semi-pro boxer in Las Vegas in his youth and later settled into his own construction business. Whether or not one believes said person has a motive, did investigators have an actual factual case or not? After Joann Katrinak, the wife of Patricias former flame, turned up dead along with her infant son, prosecutors suspected Patricia. The police report misspells his name (Troutman) and doesnt include his address, suggesting authorities didnt want anyone to track him down, according to Patricias side. We really thought she was dead all those years. I believe the answer to your question is in my comment above. Said Guilty Search it out and check for yourself. Follow her on Twitter at www.twitter.com/LizMurraySMC. They tested the hair last night on Reasonable Doubt using updated technology it is definitely Patricias. They did this case on Reasonable Doubt last night. FBI agents watched them deliver grocery bags to the house and then followed them to a shopping center in Southlake where they dumped trash from the home, prosecutors said. This woman was not innocent, but she is very good at manipulating people into feeling sorry for her. More hairs there. Patricia In addition to the Facebook page, there are Reddit threads on her case. Wright desires to live her last days with her five children and six grandchildren, was in the statement as well. Do you realize that Patricia was only found and arrested more than six months after the murder? Its nothing short of a feeble stab hoping to impress but really amounts to splitting hairs, or to put it another way, hot air with no substance. Both wanted to be doctors. He said she did own a firearm, with its serial numbers filed off. Mal told Keith Morrison that Patricias dance teacher originally confirmed her alibi that she was in class on the day of the murder, then changed his mind. You are absolutely right. Ms. She never had anyone testify against her but an ex-boyfriend! Stable situation. Alfey went on to say that he noticed that the woman hosting the model home was following them very closely the whole time that they were there. ALL IT THEN BECOMES IS A SOURCE OF INACCURACIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH ONLY SERVES TO BOLSTER THOSE WITH THAT MENTALITY AND PERPETUATE THE LACK OF TRUTH. Missouri's Governor Pardons The St. Louis Lawyers Who Waved Theres a similar air of confusion connected to the Scott Peterson debacle. The Innocence Project has declined to take her case. Her husband, Mark McCloskey, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor fourth degree assault and was fined $750. Sorry ladiesher hair was in the car and at the scene.she murdered them. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. "As horrible as Ms. Jenkins death was, it should stand for something," Marsicovetere said. "It's been a long time coming for the family and the community," Warren said. False. Liesbeth Powers/The Alex Murdaugh found guilty of killing wife, son And Patricia did live in another state. I had never been in jail before and I wasnt allowed to go outside. Someone had shot Joann in the face with a .22-caliber pistol, then beaten her about the head hitting her 19 times in all with a blunt object. Stevie J Further to my previous comment, I should add the following. I would suggest you take the time to read the book or, at least watch the documentaries which STICK TO THE FACTS, and then comment. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. Ive followed and made a study of this case for more than twenty years and have absolutely no doubt she was railroaded and wrongfully convicted. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. "You deserve to die now, not in prison. The Southern Christian Leadership Conference (SCLC), the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP), Families to Amend Californias Three Strikes (FACTS) and Change.org are among the many groups that have been working to get Patricia Wright released from prison. But let me say in my defence, I have not attacked anyone on this particular site with outright rudeness, to which you allude, albeit some of them deserved a retort of some substance. A Pittsburgh-area woman missing for over 30 years and declared legally dead several years ago has been found alive in Puerto Rico, authorities in Pennsylvania said on Thursday. Rorrer is as guilty as OJ Simpson. According to court papers from Patricia 2017 appeal, DNA on the cigarette butt found near the two bodies belonged to Appellant. (Prosecutor Michael McIntyre, however, told ForensicFilesNow.com that that the cigarette butt was never actually tested). A Dallas jury unanimously found Yaser Said guilty of killing his two teen daughters on Tuesday. Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. Owens said Said made her a weak woman but that those days are over. Thank you and well said. WoW! Entries in Patricia Prue's journal included vague descriptions of a joint fantasy that she and Allen Prue shared and were looking to fulfill. Joann would have fought for her life the person that did this would have had marks on them from a fight! She believed she was chosen as one of Gods 144,000 bond servants on earth, and gave up all her other hobbies, such as dancing, to devote her life to spreading the word of God. In 1995, Larry Wright was facing a 10-year sentence for two felonies, risk of an injury to a minor and violating a restraining order, and a misdemeanor for threatening by saying, Im going to kill you, to his wife after he caught her cheating. Still, no good leads materialized. Pat had a string of bad relationships in her past and was not happy. in emerging media and communication from the University of Texas at Dallas and an M.S. Your comment could not be farther than the truth! Bob Kopta said that his wife had mental health issues and had spoken of going to the warm climate of the island. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory.. Whats worse is that shes innocent. . It wasnt aimed at any one video producer. Nine. Its nine minutes into the video. It is not necessary to the case against her that she owned the killing gun (and it would be foolish to have used it). Yaser Said is accused of killing his two teenage daughters Amina and Sarah in 2008. Judge Richard T. Fields will be presiding over the case and Public Defender Ruby Ramirez will be representing Patricia for the Riverside County Public Defenders Office. You can PM me please, this way you can update your article with the correct information. Mr. Said harbored his father, Yaser, inside an apartment in Bedford, Texas, where a maintenance worker spotted Yaser on Aug. 14, 2017. If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? "Clive was a skilful and inventive actor with wide experience, as his successful career proved," she said. Patricia pled guilty on April 2, 1990. How so? "We will never again know the joy and love we knew for 33 years," the letter stated. So much of it, it would take all day to elaborate here. Your pathetic attempt to insult not only shows a not very original comment, but clearly displays a lack of intelligence. Mark and Patricia McCloskey, the St. Louis couple that infamously pointed guns at demonstrators who were marching past their house last summer, have pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges in the incident. Or to keep it anonymous, click here. Jerry Browns office. So, if you feel you have to be critical of me, you should also bear in mind those hate-mongers and perhaps have a word with them too. And last but not least, the fact that Michael McIntyre comes across as mentally unstable. What has that to do with the point youre trying to make? Joanns gun and beating wounds were obvious, but the baby died a less violent (but just as horrible) death with no clear signs. The hair evidence is not compelling because theres a very good possibility that the evidence was compromised. Patricia In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. I think Patricias defenders are implying the hair came from some unknown person. Lie detectors are pseudo science. Shes where she belongs in prison for the rest of her life. This is all BS.She did it. It makes me sick. The FBI even included a written report to that effect. I made the confession on tape that I had rehearsed with the LAPD, said Larry Wright. Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. After all, justice has been served in the eyes of the law, so why go on demonising her? I hope she rots in hell. The District Attorney got this one right. Nataly is the lead writer on Curious Texas and a breaking news reporter. Patricia Kopta left behind a husband and siblings and meandered through northern Puerto Rico for a while before she was taken as a person in need to the adult Arrest mother as accomplice in Texas honor killing | Fox News According to the autopsy report, Patricias husband, Jerome Scott, had only a few months to live because of a health problem involving a bloodless liver and pancreatic fibrosis. They were people that knew her, not Andrew. Why not question some of this evidence? THE COPS SET HER UP. Highly charged case. Yaser Said Found Guilty in Murders of Teen Daughters NBC 5 Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. What evidence is there she actually left the state? This witness was never revealed to Rorrers defence. Im sorry Sally, I know you want someone to blame for the death of your daughter and grandson, but the person who actually killed her is serving a life sentence in another facility in Pennsylvania. You are correct the bodies were not there all that time, and it seems odd that they baby taken at 3 month, but when found he was 6 months according to Wrong Man. Its totally irrelevant. That poor child and that poor woman. 5 years prior to all this happening! More than 20 years after her conviction, Patricia Rorrer still has advocates working to exonerate her. Ex-boyfriend Walter Blalock said that Patricia wanted him to be more like Andrew. "Yaser Said, you're a devil. Browns downtown Los Angeles office demanding that he grant Patricia Wright clemency. You know whats interesting? Yaser Said was sentenced to life in prison without parole for the murder of his two daughters Amina and Sarah Said in 2008. She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. Caledonia County Deputy State's Attorney Kirk Williams read a letter from the Jenkins family to the court during the hearing. She won't see them graduate from college. she didnt need to . Puny policy. I didnt believe it. Thank you Kerry. Youre clutching at straws Im afraid. First it was winter, cold temperatures preserve bodies for significantly longer periods. If you can tear yourself away from your obsessive mentality, you can see what virtually amounts to the tampering to which I referred. And I hope I can get down to see her., Were very thankful to know that Patty is alive and well, Smith added. I dont even know its Christmas.. According to William G. Kelley, director of the Law Offices of the Orange County Associate Defender, Patricia did not receive a fair trial. This article can also be seen at crimereport.com. Prue is currently serving a life sentence with the eventual opportunity for parole. The Prues were accused of luring Jenkins, a single mother, from her rural home and then strangling and beating her to death. which makes a complete nonsense of their gun theory. Jenkins' assailant Patricia Prue was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole on Friday after deciding to plead guilty the day before to charges of aggravated attempted murder, kidnapping and conspiracy. As for him, yes, it looks like the first suspect, but if he had alibis, quite hard to accuse of actually doing it, and I understand it was a pretty solid one. There are judges, eminent lawyers and writers who are in support of her. Patricia and her defense team denied that allegation and said she owned her home, had no financial And she called 911. Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. Dont even think about arguing with me until they DNA test that hair and the broken fingernail found on her body; Ill just laugh at you. There are those on this very site who express their disappointment she was not executed. We didnt expect it. As for the murder weapon, police didnt find a .22 caliber pistol on Patricias property, but an ex-boyfriend claimed that she owned one and it would always jam after one shot. She killed a mother and child and now has all of you eating out of the palm of her hand about how mistreated she has been. Thats my life.. I think shes guilty for sure. She is the one who tricked them, first by A knife and the clothing worn by the victim potentially had all of the answers that would have led to the real murderer, but that evidence was destroyed by the LAPD. From my point of view this is an extremely similar case, with less class and style, and without the luxurious details that Interpols case had, such as the involvement of an extremely expensive Alfa Romeo car, and a revolver bought at a lush auction in Paris, which had belonged to a duke before the incident. Pat is locked in a cage because shes an animal. Wouldnt that verify Troutmans claim that the husband was arguing with the victim, in a rage? WebThe prosecution said Patricia wanted Jeromes $30,000 life insurance policy. The first rule of a murder is motive. Four months after Joanns disappearance, farmer Paul Kovalchik reported seeing what at first looked like a pile of clothes on his land in Heidelberg Township woods, about 15 miles from the Katrinaks house. Yassein Said, 59, is guilty of conspiring to hide his older brother, Yaser Said, as authorities sought him in connection with the New Years Day slayings. I noticed quite a few errors myself. Tragedy also touched Patricias life. He was happy. I have worked for Interpol for years as a gun analyst, usually women who commit such crimes against their exes wife or mistress, lover etc are pushed from behind by a man and promises and lies. I would think if she would have an passed they definitely wouldve started looking somewhere else but there was just too much evidence against her anyway so.. and with forensics the way they are today. They also think she killed her first hubby Larry Ford as well. The Worldwide Womens Criminal Justice Networks website also points to a bombshell: In 2015, the Justice Department acknowledged that most of the team members from an FBI microscopic hair comparison unit gave prosecutors flawed data from 1980 to 2000 that could have unjustly contributed to a number convictions including Patricia Rorrers. The woman who was showing the home alleged that Patricia was involved in the theft. In 2016, Oklahoma police arrested the mother, Patricia Spann, now 44, and her 26-year-old daughter, Misty Velvet Dawn Spann, charging both of them with incest. She likely SUFFOCATED him to get revenge on the babys father who was planning on leaving her. You ought to acquaint yourself thoroughly with the case and not allow yourself to get any further elevated on your high horse. And I have absolutely no sympathy. Not normal folks obsessed ones do. The missing hairs probably got destroyed in testing.. thats how they test them.. and reports are wrong all the time. Patricia Prosecutor pounds away. But hang on You ask that I show care with my wording and show all the tolerance in the world, and by that you presumably mean I should simply ignore those who villify her in the most disgraceful way, probably in the opinion that all readers of their comments will agree, and no one is going to take offence! The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. Patricia complied fully with the original investigation of the crime and wasnt a suspect because none of the blood or fingerprints found at the crime scene matched hers. Inside the locked 1992 vehicle, police discovered some strands of blond hair stained with dried blood. Or did they? Sadly, those who defend Rorrer do not want to be confused by the truth. No way for 4 months, that deceased baby would still be resting across the mothers chest. 2023 NYP Holdings, Inc. 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Forensic Files didnt mention it, but the hairs were actually brown at the top and the rest dyed blond, according to the show Autopsy Six: A Fatal Attraction. Another witness, Walter Traupman, who never testified, had told state troopers that on the day of Joanns disappearance, he saw a couple who looked like Joann and Andrew arguing about the paternity of a baby. Her alibi about going to the club, called Cowboys Nitelife, got fuzzy when investigators discovered she hadnt signed the guest book on that day. And remnants of what look like a baby rested on the mother. As for Joanns parents, her father died a year after the murder. !) and detractors (This is another bs attempt to free a psycho). Remember, killers have the advantage over investigators. The real killer is Rorrer! Black said she was glad Said took the witness stand, giving her the chance to poke holes in his story, exposing him to everyone who has been watching this case. Wow. Theres something very important to this case that needs to be mentioned more than anything else THE GUN. WebPatricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. Relatives at the time told cops that Yaser threatened bodily harm against Sarah for going on a date with a non-Muslim. And for you to even ask why documentaries are biased, makes me wonder if you have the ability to determine fact from fiction! Remembering Patricia Cole, former copy editor at NPR : NPR They are a joke. Unbloody vehicle. Susan Wright is out of prison after killing her husband in TX. She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. Relatives at the time told cops that Yaser threatened bodily harm against Sarah for going on a date with a non-Muslim. Read the crime and public safety news your neighbors are talking about. That woman has no soul. Murder in Lehigh Valley: Keith Morrison Reports is also available on YouTube, but it costs $1.99 to view (Keith comes off as an advocate for Patricias innocence on the episode). Sorry, I must have missed your name on the witness list. Even if there were some minor flaws or discrepancies in the investigation, thats normal. A Pennsylvania woman who went missing more than 30 years ago in a case that stumped authorities who later declared her legally dead has been found living in a nursing home in Puerto Rico. Crystal Carter is a Bay Area-based reporting fellow with the Center for Media, Crime and Justice in the John Jay College of Criminal Justice at the City University of New York (CUNY). If the answer is no, enough said! Another former boyfriend said she talked about Andrew frequently and liked to gaze at old photos of him. A man was convicted Thursday of helping to hide a brother who was accused of murdering his teenage daughters in Irving more than 12 years ago, the U.S. Attorneys Office announced. As for an epilogue on ex-flame Andrew Katrinak, he has moved to Colorado and kept a low profile since the trial ended. "If she could do that as a woman, my God.". And, why is it reasonable to believe lay people accept the jury verdict? WebThe prosecution said Patricia wanted Jeromes $30,000 life insurance policy. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. The prosecution alleged that after the murder, Patricia drove Joanns car to McCartys parking lot and backed it into a parking space. They released a poster of Joann and Alex, noting that the baby had almond-shaped blue eyes, weighed 18 pounds, and was circumcised. neither her nor there couldnt be linked to her. For goodness sake, it was never proved at her trial she used the gun the police so steadfastly offered as evidence or for that matter, ANY OTHER GUN.